Conversation 2
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A
table of the space panorama can be found at the end of Silong's paper "Searching for Common Principle of Relativity & Quantum
Mechanics".
Inspired by this, and to make our conversation easier to understand, I
would like to define two spaces, namely space of deflection and space of
rotation.
The first is the space of deflection. The
domain
[0, p/2]
is the limit of the deflection angles of frames, which
includes Newtonian space, relativistic space and black holes.
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The space of deflection has two ends, Newtonian space at
one end and a black hole at the other.
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Right, we commonly call it the macro world or the realm of certainty.
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This space resembles a performance stage or a showcase.
All the results of observations, measurements or information transfer
are presented and perceived only in the space of deflection.
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All results of experiments are expressed or predicted,
and all our senses are experienced only in the space of deflection as
well.
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I've also been thinking about the interesting question,
it turns out that all our perception is limited to the first quadrant of
the deflection angles. Can we say that physics cannot produce results
without showing them in the space of deflection?
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I get what you have indicated. Thought, consciousness, belief and other
things outside of human experience that we can share can go beyond the
space of deflection.
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That's right. In fact, more than 99% of our experience is
in Newtonian space. However,
Chuanjiang’s division of
spaces mainly takes macro and micro into account.
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Now let's define the "space of rotation". It is the periodic rotation of
frames with angles in the domain
[0, +¥).
People
commonly call it the microworld, the quantum world or the realm of
uncertainty.
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This space is like a black box, making it impossible to determine its
internal quantum state, as if it existed outside of reality. Three
interactions, electromagnetic, strong and weak, carry all the
information from the space of rotation to the space of deflection, where
the effects and results are shown or demonstrated. (Gravity is ignored
in this space.)
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As a result, interactions are seen as the sensors or the interface of
the black box. What is the essence behind the appearance of our
observations has been puzzling.
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The words “interface” and “sensors” in your description
are very vivid, Jinkai. In
my opinion, quantum spin is the main feature of the space of rotation,
and its essence is the rotation of frames.
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It is known that observation and measurement can interfere with quantum
states in the space of rotation. The interference occurs at the
interface of interactions from the space of rotation to the space of
deflection, which we call quantum collapse.
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In any case, only the space of deflection must show the results of
interactions between the space of deflection and the space of rotation
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Simply because we human beings live only in the space of deflection.
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We call the rotation of two frames of two particles, while maintaining
the normal symmetry of both size and direction in the superposition, a
correlation.
The angle of deflection of one of the correlated
particles relative to the other is uncertain, and the angle of
deflection of the other particle is also uncertain, until there is
extraneous interference such as human observation or measurement as an
interaction.
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The outside interference breaks the symmetry and balance of the frames
of correlated particles. The so-called outside is called interference
from the space of deflection. The measurement or observation is the
macroscopic behavior in the space of deflection and the result is that
the space of rotation of the particle turns into the space of deflection
in a probabilistic way to satisfy the need of frame symmetry of the
measurement or observation.
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It's a bit roundabout to understand. First of all, we need to know why
frame symmetry in the space of rotation is a feature of quantum
correlation. We need to discuss it further with logical chain proofs to
solve this problem.
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Now we are mainly sorting out some concepts, and when we look back at
them later, or repeat them several times, they will become clearer and
clearer. Such new concepts cannot be built up all at once.
Key
Words:
space of deflection,
space of rotation,
quantum collapse,
correlation