Conversation 1
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A conversation program has been launched on this website.
First of all, I'd like to introduce myself, Dai Chuanjiang ,
a senior researcher of energy system and also the webmaster of this
website. It is a great honor for me to introduce Mr. Tian Yujun
,
a senior
researcher of energy, and Mr. Chen Jinkai
,
a Ph.D. student of engineering thermophysics, to join our conversation.
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The main content of this conversation is to discuss and
deeply understand Dr. Cui Silong's
Theory of Analytical Space-Time
（Chinese Version）and a paper
“Searching for Common Principle of Relativity & Quantum
Mechanics”. The
purpose is to stimulate the
interest and participation of scientists, philosophers, and the public,
and to promote and enlighten the development and progress of physics
through discussion and conclusions.
Before you read our
conversations, I'd like to remind you of what you already knew from
Dr. Silong's paper:
1. How the angular variable
behind the Lorentz factor is found.
2. How the essence of
Earth's
aberration is identified as a space-time deflection.
3. How the Schrödinger's
equation is derived.
4. Variable of space-time at
Table 2.
I believe that conversation is the best way to
brainstorm through different points of view. The greatest source of
progress comes from finding and correcting mistakes.
The online conversation has been in progress since
February 2023. The content of the online conversation published on this
website has been revised, edited and translated into English.
You, any organization or individual, are free to share and adapt all or
part of the content published on this website, subject to the terms of
the Attribution 4.0 International
(CC by 4.0).
Here we go.
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Thank you, Webmaster. New physical principles are not
applied by chance, and if they are correct or true, they must exist or
be hidden in physical phenomena. The new theory might explain some
unsolved physical phenomena. I expect that more people can understand a
new physical theory through conversation and discussion. The exciting
times of physics have been far away for so long, and hopefully the torch
of inspiration will be rekindled by the spark of our thoughts.
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We realize that Silong's great discovery is bringing or has brought a
quantum revolution, and we will see more and more quantum progress and
achievements. Our conversations are timely and necessary for the entire
scientific community to know it.
I feel that none of us has an academic background in the foundations of
physics or in philosophy, and it is really lucky and great to be able to
discuss such big, unprecedented topics. Although we may make mistakes
and confusions, it is much better to be vocal than silent, and to be
incomplete than inactive.
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I’d like to quote the conclusion at the end
of Stephen Hawking's book
A
Brief History
of Time:
...
if we do discover a
complete theory, it should in time be understandable in broad principle
by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers,
scientists, and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the
discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist.
If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human
reason for then we would know the mind of God.
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I would like to raise a focus issue before we begin the
discussion.
The phenomenon of Earth's aberration has been known
for nearly 300 years, but the space deflection identified
from it by Dr. Cui Silong is the greatest physics discovery in decades, the significance of which in the future will be comparable to the
great discoveries of Newton and Einstein. The chief editor of the top international journal
nature
physics
recognized it as a "finding" in 2017, but both academics and
people interested in physics have overlooked and underestimated the
importance of this discovery.
In addition to the discovery of the phenomenon of space
deflection, there are two major highlights. One is the concurrence of
frame deflection, which has no time difference at all with the framed
reference object. The second is the concurrence of the mutual
deflections between the correlated frames, and the concurrence has
nothing to do with the distance between the correlated frames. That is,
the mutual deflections between the correlated frames occur
simultaneously, no matter how far apart they are, without the limit of
the speed of light.
In our conversation, this discovery and proof will be
discussed and verified in detail, introducing the concepts of space
deflection and space rotation into the interpretations of the unified
theory of physics.
I have received some feedback that it is difficult for
people to accept new basic concepts, because the new theory is not only
the basis of physics, but also the basis of philosophy, such as the
basis of epistemology, the basis of phenomenology, and so on. This
touches on the very primitive way of establishing the logic of thinking
and reasoning in our childhood or school. Although the new theory may
seem simple, the interpretations of the new theory can feel jerky, and
it takes a long time to build new ideas to complement or modify existing
conventional concepts. Some of my colleagues at the Institute told me
that Silong's theory is like a black hole: once you get close to it, you
get sucked in and can't help yourself get out.
Try it and see if it is like
that?
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None of the current physical theories have taken into account the
concept of deflection or rotation of space, which plays a crucial role
in space-time frames.
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I
have drawn up a list of topics to be discussed as follows:
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Space frames, symmetry and
correlation
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Space of deflection & Space
of rotation
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Concurrence & causality
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Demystification of strange quantum phenomena
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Hidden variable
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Inertial and non-inertial
frames
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Gravitation and interactions
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Relationship of concepts and
logic chain
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Simplicity & paradigm
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Underlying logic of physics and philosophy
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Verification of fundamental principles
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Current status, outlook, and answers to reader questions
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Let's start by discussing the new concept of "Space Deflection".
No matter which frame is an observer of the other, or whether they
are mutual observers of each other, there is a pairwise deflection
between the two frames of space-time, where A deflects B and
relatively B deflects A. Whenever there is a deflection between
frames A and B, the mutual deflection angles must remain opposite in
direction in space and have the equal absolute value, so the sum of
the mutual deflection angles is ZERO, just like the relationship
between action and reaction, because this is common sense. In
general, this symmetry is seen as a symmetry of normals.
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The so-called space-time deflection must be paired and relative, and
has nothing to do with which of the two is an observer or not. Is
that correct?
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Yes, I'd like to suggest that in order to avoid
misunderstandings in our conversation, some words need to be
redefined. In our conversation, the terms "Deflection" and
"Rotation" refer to the deflection or rotation of a space-time
frame. Since the product of length and time is invariant under
deflection in Principle (II), we can use the word "space" instead of
"space-time".
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Good idea. A space frame is neither matter nor energy
in and of itself.
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The word "Frame" means a "space-time coordinate frame" attached to a
reference. It is not like the frames on a television screen.
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A one-dimensional string can be compared to the formula y = y0coswt .
The starting point of Silong's theory and string
theory may have something in common in the fundamental principle.
I'm just mentioning it in passing. I don't understand superstrings.
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You reminded me, Jinkai. Superstring experts can use
this as a reference.
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Let's define “Symmetry” : In this context, symmetry
is the symmetrical state of rotation or deflection of the space-time
frames. In short, it is nothing more than frame symmetry. The
symmetry of the size and direction of the normals also holds in the
space of rotation. The rotation of space-time leads to quantum
non-locality, whose symmetries are symmetries of superposition.
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The symmetry or symmetry-breaking of frames is the simplest
symmetry or symmetry-breaking in physics, since frames are neither
mass nor energy.
Symmetry (conservation) is
the axiom of the universe, the most basic and lowest rationality and
the end of human reasoning, the axiom embedded in all cultures,
histories, languages, beliefs, philosophies, sciences, aesthetics,
arts, including institutions, laws, management, thoughts, emotions,
attitudes, values, concepts and ethics, morality, fairness and
justice in the daily lives, communications and interactions of
society. The Grand Unified or Ultimate Theory must conform to this
axiom.
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It's not hard to see why it's the simplest. We can
take the symmetry as the underlying symmetry and the same for the
symmetry-breaking. The law of symmetry
suggests that if one's state of deflection is known or certain, the
other's state is also known or certain, and if one's state of
deflection is unknown, the other's state is also unknown.
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Correlation is described in the
discussion as a symmetric state (magnitude and direction of the
normal) of the rotation of the frames. We call a pair of particles "correlated"
when their frames remain in the symmetric state of superposition.
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I understand that the state of symmetry or the state of correlation
means that the state remains free from interaction with any other.
To put it simply, inertial means no interaction and non-inertial
means interaction. (No interaction refers to the balance of forces.)
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That's right, I repeat, a pair of particles in symmetry is what we
call "correlation". Particles are correlated by the symmetry of
their frames. The term "correlation" refers to the symmetric state
of the inertial frames of the particles. We will discuss symmetry
effects in non-inertial frames later.
Key Words:
Space Deflection,
Rotation, Frame,
Symmetry,
Correlation