Conversation 1


Chuanjiang: A conversation program has been launched on this website. First of all, I'd like to introduce myself, Dai Chuanjiang Chuanjiang, a senior researcher of energy system and also the webmaster of this website. It is a great honor for me to introduce Mr. Tian YujunYujun, a senior researcher of energy, and Mr. Chen JinkaiJinkai, a Ph.D. student of engineering thermophysics, to join our conversation.


Chuanjiang: The main content of this conversation is to discuss and deeply understand Dr. Cui Silong's Theory of Analytical Space-Time (Chinese Version)and a paper “Searching for Common Principle of Relativity & Quantum Mechanics”. The purpose is to stimulate the interest and participation of scientists, philosophers, and the public, and to promote and enlighten the development and progress of physics through discussion and conclusions.

Before you read our conversations, I'd like to remind you of what you already knew from Dr. Silong's paper:

1. How the angular variable behind the Lorentz factor is found.

2. How the essence of Earth's aberration is identified as a space-time deflection.

3. How the Schrödinger's equation is derived.

4. Variable of space-time at Table 2.

I believe that conversation is the best way to brainstorm through different points of view. The greatest source of progress comes from finding and correcting mistakes.

The online conversation has been in progress since February 2023. The content of the online conversation published on this website has been revised, edited and translated into English.

You, any organization or individual, are free to share and adapt all or part of the content published on this website, subject to the terms of the Attribution 4.0 International (CC by 4.0).

Here we go.


Yujun: Thank you, Webmaster. New physical principles are not applied by chance, and if they are correct or true, they must exist or be hidden in physical phenomena. The new theory might explain some unsolved physical phenomena. I expect that more people can understand a new physical theory through conversation and discussion. The exciting times of physics have been far away for so long, and hopefully the torch of inspiration will be rekindled by the spark of our thoughts.


Jinkai: We realize that Silong's great discovery is bringing or has brought a quantum revolution, and we will see more and more quantum progress and achievements. Our conversations are timely and necessary for the entire scientific community to know it.

I feel that none of us has an academic background in the foundations of physics or in philosophy, and it is really lucky and great to be able to discuss such big, unprecedented topics. Although we may make mistakes and confusions, it is much better to be vocal than silent, and to be incomplete than inactive.


Yujun: I’d like to quote the conclusion at the end of Stephen Hawking's book A Brief History of Time: ... if we do discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable in broad principle by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists, and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason for then we would know the mind of God.


Chuanjiang: I would like to raise a focus issue before we begin the discussion.

The phenomenon of Earth's aberration has been known for nearly 300 years, but the space deflection identified from it by Dr. Cui Silong is the greatest physics discovery in decades, the significance of which in the future will be comparable to the great discoveries of Newton and Einstein. The chief editor of the top international journal nature physics recognized it as a "finding" in 2017, but both academics and people interested in physics have overlooked and underestimated the importance of this discovery.

In addition to the discovery of the phenomenon of space deflection, there are two major highlights. One is the concurrence of frame deflection, which has no time difference at all with the framed reference object. The second is the concurrence of the mutual deflections between the correlated frames, and the concurrence has nothing to do with the distance between the correlated frames. That is, the mutual deflections between the correlated frames occur simultaneously, no matter how far apart they are, without the limit of the speed of light.

In our conversation, this discovery and proof will be discussed and verified in detail, introducing the concepts of space deflection and space rotation into the interpretations of the unified theory of physics.

I have received some feedback that it is difficult for people to accept new basic concepts, because the new theory is not only the basis of physics, but also the basis of philosophy, such as the basis of epistemology, the basis of phenomenology, and so on. This touches on the very primitive way of establishing the logic of thinking and reasoning in our childhood or school. Although the new theory may seem simple, the interpretations of the new theory can feel jerky, and it takes a long time to build new ideas to complement or modify existing conventional concepts. Some of my colleagues at the Institute told me that Silong's theory is like a black hole: once you get close to it, you get sucked in and can't help yourself get out. Try it and see if it is like that?


Jinkai: None of the current physical theories have taken into account the concept of deflection or rotation of space, which plays a crucial role in space-time frames.


Chuanjiang: I have drawn up a list of topics to be discussed as follows:


l  Space frames, symmetry and correlation

l  Space of deflection & Space of rotation

l  Concurrence & causality

l  Demystification of strange quantum phenomena

l  Hidden variable

l  Inertial and non-inertial frames

l  Gravitation and interactions

l  Relationship of concepts and logic chain

l  Simplicity & paradigm

l  Underlying logic of physics and philosophy

l  Verification of fundamental principles

l  Current status, outlook, and answers to reader questions


Chuanjiang: Let's start by discussing the new concept of "Space Deflection". No matter which frame is an observer of the other, or whether they are mutual observers of each other, there is a pairwise deflection between the two frames of space-time, where A deflects B and relatively B deflects A. Whenever there is a deflection between frames A and B, the mutual deflection angles must remain opposite in direction in space and have the equal absolute value, so the sum of the mutual deflection angles is ZERO, just like the relationship between action and reaction, because this is common sense. In general, this symmetry is seen as a symmetry of normals.


Jinkai: The so-called space-time deflection must be paired and relative, and has nothing to do with which of the two is an observer or not. Is that correct?


Yujun: Yes, I'd like to suggest that in order to avoid misunderstandings in our conversation, some words need to be redefined. In our conversation, the terms "Deflection" and "Rotation" refer to the deflection or rotation of a space-time frame. Since the product of length and time is invariant under deflection in Principle (II), we can use the word "space" instead of "space-time".


Chuanjiang: Good idea. A space frame is neither matter nor energy in and of itself.


Yujun: The word "Frame" means a "space-time coordinate frame" attached to a reference. It is not like the frames on a television screen.


Jinkai: A one-dimensional string can be compared to the formula y = y0coswt . The starting point of Silong's theory and string theory may have something in common in the fundamental principle. I'm just mentioning it in passing. I don't understand superstrings.


Yujun: You reminded me, Jinkai. Superstring experts can use this as a reference.


Chuanjiang: Let's define “Symmetry” : In this context, symmetry is the symmetrical state of rotation or deflection of the space-time frames. In short, it is nothing more than frame symmetry. The symmetry of the size and direction of the normals also holds in the space of rotation. The rotation of space-time leads to quantum non-locality, whose symmetries are symmetries of superposition.


Jinkai: The symmetry or symmetry-breaking of frames is the simplest symmetry or symmetry-breaking in physics, since frames are neither mass nor energy.

Symmetry (conservation) is the axiom of the universe, the most basic and lowest rationality and the end of human reasoning, the axiom embedded in all cultures, histories, languages, beliefs, philosophies, sciences, aesthetics, arts, including institutions, laws, management, thoughts, emotions, attitudes, values, concepts and ethics, morality, fairness and justice in the daily lives, communications and interactions of society. The Grand Unified or Ultimate Theory must conform to this axiom.


Yujun: It's not hard to see why it's the simplest. We can take the symmetry as the underlying symmetry and the same for the symmetry-breaking. The law of symmetry suggests that if one's state of deflection is known or certain, the other's state is also known or certain, and if one's state of deflection is unknown, the other's state is also unknown.


Chuanjiang:  Correlation is described in the discussion as a symmetric state (magnitude and direction of the normal) of the rotation of the frames. We call a pair of particles "correlated"  when their frames remain in the symmetric state of superposition.


Jinkai: I understand that the state of symmetry or the state of correlation means that the state remains free from interaction with any other. To put it simply, inertial means no interaction and non-inertial means interaction. (No interaction refers to the balance of forces.)


Yujun: That's right, I repeat, a pair of particles in symmetry is what we call "correlation". Particles are correlated by the symmetry of their frames. The term "correlation" refers to the symmetric state of the inertial frames of the particles. We will discuss symmetry effects in non-inertial frames later.

Key Words Space DeflectionRotationFrameSymmetry Correlation


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